Comments on: Church Members Supporting Mary Winkler? http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/ inspired by the letter M: MURAKAMI, MISTS of MOSCHINO and MITSUKO Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:03:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Clark http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Clark Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:35:39 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-295 Much has been said of forgiveness on these posts. All of this would not be happening if Mary Winkler would have been forgiving of her husband or maybe understanding if perhaps he was extremely angry at her for her felonious check kiting and getting duped by some ridiculous Internet scam that threatened the family's financial stability. Much has been said of forgiveness on these posts. All of this would not be happening if Mary Winkler would have been forgiving of her husband or maybe understanding if perhaps he was extremely angry at her for her felonious check kiting and getting duped by some ridiculous Internet scam that threatened the family’s financial stability.

]]> By: molly http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-293 molly Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:46:07 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-293 http://www.independentappeal.com/ This is the local paper in my area http://www.thejacksonsun.com This is a semi local paper God says forgive. I wonder how the people in McMinnville feel about her... I bet she walks.. or at least get very little time. we'll have to wait and see and leave it up to the Lord. Thanks http://www.independentappeal.com/
This is the local paper in my area
http://www.thejacksonsun.com
This is a semi local paper

God says forgive.
I wonder how the people in McMinnville feel about her…
I bet she walks.. or at least get very little time.
we’ll have to wait and see and leave it up to the Lord.
Thanks

]]> By: Clark http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Clark Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:50:29 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-292 I would love to be the prosecuting attorney on this one. I would ask for the death penalty since it was a murder in the commission of another crime. She was kiting checks. The real issue will be whether the preacher was involved and to what extent. They are going to play upon people's sympathies. She lies and manipulates saying she doesn't want to disparage her husband's name, who incidentally can't defend himself now, yet she alludes to "life threatening circumstance" sometime in the past. What should be discussed and perhaps on a national level is whether the expression of a husbands frustration, anger, and disappointment is "emotional and mental abuse." Unfortunately for many they are one and the same. The husband had every right to castigate her. She was committing felonies!!!! She is a coward. Not only shoots him in the back, but as he slept. Now is alluding to tearing down his character when he can't defend himself all the while playing the victim.My God what kind of church is that. I am a minister. I wonder how she will feel about things if she is sentence to death? Divorce is a solution that certainly is prefered above murder. I would love to be the prosecuting attorney on this one. I would ask for the death penalty since it was a murder in the commission of another crime. She was kiting checks. The real issue will be whether the preacher was involved and to what extent. They are going to play upon people’s sympathies. She lies and manipulates saying she doesn’t want to disparage her husband’s name, who incidentally can’t defend himself now, yet she alludes to “life threatening circumstance” sometime in the past. What should be discussed and perhaps on a national level is whether the expression of a husbands frustration, anger, and disappointment is “emotional and mental abuse.” Unfortunately for many they are one and the same. The husband had every right to castigate her. She was committing felonies!!!! She is a coward. Not only shoots him in the back, but as he slept. Now is alluding to tearing down his character when he can’t defend himself all the while playing the victim.My God what kind of church is that. I am a minister. I wonder how she will feel about things if she is sentence to death? Divorce is a solution that certainly is prefered above murder.

]]> By: molly http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-291 molly Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:26:58 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-291 Well good people, She got out today. Got in the car with her father and left for McMinnville, TN. Apparently we have a Kangaroo Court around here. I just can't see it. She just didn't have to kill him. Now watch when the trial comes up, I'll be called. Wouldn't that be my luck..... Ya'll have a good day Well good people,
She got out today. Got in the car with her father and left for McMinnville, TN. Apparently we have a Kangaroo Court
around here. I just can’t see it. She just didn’t have to kill him. Now watch when the trial comes up, I’ll be called. Wouldn’t that be my luck…..
Ya’ll have a good day

]]> By: Ghosty http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Ghosty Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:00:35 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-290 Yes it's definitely ok to post the URL Yes it’s definitely ok to post the URL

]]> By: molly http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-287 molly Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:07:25 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-287 As of today, printed in a semi local paper, she claims abuse, but didn't reveal the type of abuse. Also the paper says that she might get out sometime this next week. Let me know if it is ok type the URL for the semi local paper Thanks As of today, printed in a semi local paper, she claims abuse, but didn’t reveal the type of abuse.
Also the paper says that she might get out sometime this next week.
Let me know if it is ok type the URL for the semi local paper
Thanks

]]> By: molly http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-285 molly Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:53:30 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-285 Well, good news She did not get out as planned. Something about the 1st bonding agency wasn't up to par, and neither was the 2nd bonding agency. Whether he was abusive or not, it has not been told. Cheating on her.... not come up as of yet, molesting the children... not come as of yet, gay....... (I kinda doubt it), also not come up as of yet. I heard today that a girl got out of jail HERE (posted bond) I heard it was about a $400.00 bond She shot as killed another girl just last week. Everything is hush hush about this one, imagine that...... A girl in Ripley TN left her baby in a hot truck and it died... she's out on bond. Winkler's lawyer also stated that the $750,000 bond was way to much for such a small town. Answer me this... What does this being a small town have anything to do with it? (can't figure out that one) It may not be in our lifetime, but she will reap what she sowed. I still think she could have left without killing him. I hear CoC does not believe in divorce, well...... it's alot better than murder. Thanks for your time Molly Well, good news
She did not get out as planned.
Something about the 1st bonding agency wasn’t up to par, and neither was the 2nd bonding agency.
Whether he was abusive or not, it has not been told.
Cheating on her…. not come up as of yet,
molesting the children… not come as of yet,
gay……. (I kinda doubt it), also not come up as of yet.
I heard today that a girl got out of jail HERE (posted bond) I heard it was about a $400.00 bond
She shot as killed another girl just last week. Everything is hush hush about this one, imagine that……
A girl in Ripley TN left her baby in a hot truck and it died… she’s out on bond.
Winkler’s lawyer also stated that the $750,000 bond was way to much for such a small town.
Answer me this… What does this being a small town have anything to do with it? (can’t figure out that one)
It may not be in our lifetime, but she will reap what she sowed. I still think she could have left without killing him. I hear CoC does not believe in divorce, well…… it’s alot better than murder.
Thanks for your time
Molly

]]> By: Clark http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Clark Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:05:15 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-284 Wow the flake is getting out of jail. For months now we have listened to all sorts of speculation about the Pastor. He must have been cheating on her, he was molesting the children, he was gay yadayadayada. Now it seems the Mrs. was taken in on an Internet scheme and lost a bunch of money that they really didn't have. The "abusive" husband got upset.......who wouldn't. So she shoots him in the back when he was sleeping, yanks the phone out of the wall, takes the kids and splits. If it were a guy he wouldn't be getting out of jail on bond. Take Scott Peterson. He didn't want to be married either, was involved in some unseemly things and his out was murder too. She should not get out of jail, should get the death penalty. I trust that when she stands before Jesus she can give an account of her wrong doing. Wow the flake is getting out of jail. For months now we have listened to all sorts of speculation about the Pastor. He must have been cheating on her, he was molesting the children, he was gay yadayadayada.

Now it seems the Mrs. was taken in on an Internet scheme and lost a bunch of money that they really didn’t have. The “abusive” husband got upset…….who wouldn’t. So she shoots him in the back when he was sleeping, yanks the phone out of the wall, takes the kids and splits. If it were a guy he wouldn’t be getting out of jail on bond. Take Scott Peterson. He didn’t want to be married either, was involved in some unseemly things and his out was murder too. She should not get out of jail, should get the death penalty. I trust that when she stands before Jesus she can give an account of her wrong doing.

]]> By: molly http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-282 molly Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:13:11 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-282 I have lived in this area in which this murder happened for 40 years. I try not to judge people in their wrong doings, but murder is murder. She could have just clocked him with a skillet and left if she was tired of the situation, or called her father to come and get her. She is supposed to get out tomorrow on bond. There again, I don't think that is good either. As far as the church is concerned in my opinion only, they are a good people who love the Lord and they are trying to handle this situation the best way they can. It helps to ease their hearts also by praying for her. It's all left up to the Good Lord Remember: You reap what you sow. Thanks I have lived in this area in which this murder happened for 40 years. I try not to judge people in their wrong doings, but murder is murder. She could have just clocked him with a skillet and left if she was tired of the situation, or called her father to come and get her. She is supposed to get out tomorrow on bond. There again, I don’t think that is good either. As far as the church is concerned in my opinion only, they are a good people who love the Lord and they are trying to handle this situation the best way they can. It helps to ease their hearts also by praying for her. It’s all left up to the Good Lord
Remember: You reap what you sow.
Thanks

]]> By: Deanne http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Deanne Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:39:05 +0000 http://reverb.madstatic.com/blog/2006/03/28/church-members-supporting-mary-winkler/#comment-193 This is in response to Jerome. I do not know that Muslims, etc... go to Hell because I can not judge or determine their eternity. I can only call on the Bible to know that you must first accept Christ in order to receive His Grace. As well I can not judge Mary Winkler and her eternity. As a Christian, I feel that it is just as important to pray for someone such as Mary as it is to pray for the children. However, my heart goes to the children. I also want to make clear that I do not believe (after reading the articles) that debt or criticism constitutes murder. I understand (do not agree with) you point of view. I have not always been a believer. I have asked the same questions as you are. It is hard to believe if you have no faith. That is what Christianity is based on is faith. The miracle of life alone is too miraculous to not believe in our Creator. I have always learned of too many coincidences to not believe. I know as a non Christian, it may be hard to understand. However since I have received Christ into my heart and into my life and home, my life has changed dramatically. No I have not received a big check or anything material like that but my struggles have become less and my outlook has become more. I do not believe that those who have not been introduced the Word or to Christ receive the penalty of Hell necessarily.... I do believe to accept Christ in your life only to lead of life of Sin with no repentance is not accepted in His eyes. It is my belief that we will on be standing before Him and we will all be judged. I do want to say that I do not categorize Atheist with those who practice Muslim, Hinduism, etc... To have no Faith at all is scary. Too many times I hear those who claim to be Atheist... I believe in a higher power but no particular higher power. In many cases, I have found that to translate that I believe in my life time I should be able to do what I want when I want, making no room for God... any God. This is not to say that all Atheists are like this, I am sure that there are people who claim atheism who do lead very decent lives. This is also not to say that Christians lead sinless lives. No one does, otherwise there would have been no need for Jesus to sacrifice Himself for us. Anyway, please do not shut the door on Christianity, and please do not judge Christians. Crack open a Bible, take a study.... then make your decision of the Christian lifestyle. It will make more sense to you with the knowledge. Thanks. Here are a few passages that I refer to in order to understand what it is God wants me to do as his servant... Luke 17:4 Even if he wrongs you seven times a day and each time turns again and asks forgiveness, forgive him." Luke 17:3 I am warning you! If another believer [ Greek your brother.] sins, rebuke him; then if he repents, forgive him. Acts 10:43 He is the one all the prophets testified about, saying that everyone who believes in him will have their sins forgiven through his name." John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. Luke 6:37 "Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. Stop criticizing others, or it will all come back on you. If you forgive others, you will be forgiven This is in response to Jerome. I do not know that Muslims, etc… go to Hell because I can not judge or determine their eternity. I can only call on the Bible to know that you must first accept Christ in order to receive His Grace. As well I can not judge Mary Winkler and her eternity. As a Christian, I feel that it is just as important to pray for someone such as Mary as it is to pray for the children. However, my heart goes to the children. I also want to make clear that I do not believe (after reading the articles) that debt or criticism constitutes murder.

I understand (do not agree with) you point of view. I have not always been a believer. I have asked the same questions as you are. It is hard to believe if you have no faith. That is what Christianity is based on is faith. The miracle of life alone is too miraculous to not believe in our Creator. I have always learned of too many coincidences to not believe. I know as a non Christian, it may be hard to understand. However since I have received Christ into my heart and into my life and home, my life has changed dramatically. No I have not received a big check or anything material like that but my struggles have become less and my outlook has become more. I do not believe that those who have not been introduced the Word or to Christ receive the penalty of Hell necessarily…. I do believe to accept Christ in your life only to lead of life of Sin with no repentance is not accepted in His eyes. It is my belief that we will on be standing before Him and we will all be judged. I do want to say that I do not categorize Atheist with those who practice Muslim, Hinduism, etc… To have no Faith at all is scary. Too many times I hear those who claim to be Atheist… I believe in a higher power but no particular higher power. In many cases, I have found that to translate that I believe in my life time I should be able to do what I want when I want, making no room for God… any God. This is not to say that all Atheists are like this, I am sure that there are people who claim atheism who do lead very decent lives. This is also not to say that Christians lead sinless lives. No one does, otherwise there would have been no need for Jesus to sacrifice Himself for us. Anyway, please do not shut the door on Christianity, and please do not judge Christians. Crack open a Bible, take a study…. then make your decision of the Christian lifestyle. It will make more sense to you with the knowledge.

Thanks.

Here are a few passages that I refer to in order to understand what it is God wants me to do as his servant…

Luke 17:4
Even if he wrongs you seven times a day and each time turns again and asks forgiveness, forgive him.”

Luke 17:3
I am warning you! If another believer [ Greek your brother.] sins, rebuke him; then if he repents, forgive him.

Acts 10:43
He is the one all the prophets testified about, saying that everyone who believes in him will have their sins forgiven through his name.”

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

Luke 6:37
“Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. Stop criticizing others, or it will all come back on you. If you forgive others, you will be forgiven

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